we know broly is possibly stronger than beerus and gogeta absolutely finnesed the hell out of him which also means he's far above the gods including beerus. Goku said Broly is probably stronger than Beerus during their final meeting. Since Goku himself was nowhere near Beerus’ level of power even at his strongest form at the time which was SSBKKX20 and we both saw what happened when that form of Goku clashed with someone who was stated to be at the realm of the gods of destruction needless to say he didn’t fair very well. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. We issue warnings if we believe the user means well but we are not obligated to do so. It was confirmed that Ultra Instinct Goku is stronger than the Gods of Destruction including Beerus. [–]Galaxy_Megatron 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). Even in the Broly Movie, Beerus was on Earth, just chillin'. Regardless, Jiren has far better showings imo. can earth ( marvel ) survive a a tyranid invasion, 3 minmaxed Skyrim stealth archers vs the sly cooper trilogy. Proof that Beerus is powerful enough to one shot SSB Gogeta with hakai? C. Ultra instinct doesn’t make you untouchable even the completed version as evidenced by MUI Goku vs LB Jiren. For a guide on flairing and how to filter out flairs you don't like, click here. There's some dispute about translation, but I think "probably" is the correct term used. We saw the diffrence between normal ssj and ssjg in the manga and anime. re: Ultra Instinct Gogeta vs Whis Whis sleeps on the likes of Broly and Beerus so if he puts any effort into the UI Gogeta fight at all it would be low-diff. Going by your logic Beerus should be able to erase all of them so that shouldn’t be an issue for him. Downvoting will never be allowed on this sub. However, he saw Jiren's full power, and a huge power up on top of that. Even the fully mastered state of the gods, Ultra Instinct, falls short to the jewel of universe eleven. in the V jump magazine it was stated that mastered ultra instinct goku MIGHT have surpassed beerus. Gogeta wasn't even using his full power against broly and Goku even says he might be stronger than beerus. Sure it's not actually happened by anyone other than Zeno, but TOP Goku scales so far above SSG Goku that it would be a little ridiculous to assume he isn't capable of it. @alextheboss: Destruction energy probably won't really do much. remember the diffrence between ssj 3 goku and ssjg goku? I have no doubt that a bloodlusted beerus would just start erasing everyone and everything including the universe he's in. Limit Breaker Jiren should be handily above Beerus, especially since he was giving Goku a hell of a fight when he mastered a technique Beerus couldn't. At the height of the power weve seen them have on screen (so that's Gogeta Blue when he fought Broly) (edited by administrators) Gogeta Autonomous Ultra Instinct (ability) Autonomous Ultra Instinct Dragon Ball Super: Broly. After all he wouldn’t even dare confront the Grand Priest when his existence was at stake in the ToP instead he tried to ask Whis to bribe his father to ensure his survival. That also happened in the anime, his power and Goku's nearly destroyed the universe, so he had to erase it. this feet itself is already impressive enough for gogeta soloing this due to him being suppressed is already well above beerus and jiren so him going all out makes it a stomp. Meruem (Hunter X Hunter) Vs Chainsaw Man (Chainsaw Man). re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue quote GohanAntifan93 Gogeta Blue > Super Saiyan Full Power Broly > Super Saiyan Gogeta >Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku > Jiren > Ultra Instinct Goku Yes. Beerus didn't even deny it, he just says it was only an arm wrestling competition. Beerus is unquantifiable, but it would be a safe bet to assume he's below Jiren. Beerus and Champa showed that just by fighting the universe was going to be destroyed. He was even ready to erase Goku at one point, without the need to even power up. Hakai has shown to be negated by being stronger, this was shown by Frieza, Goku and Vegeta. Can the US Military replace Santa Claus for one Christmas? Failure to treat your fellow users with respect can lead to a warning or ban. Subreddit vs Subreddit posts or other posts looking to get a rise out of other online communities (Tumblr, 4chan, etc, etc). Was that confirmed? I think it's pretty evident at this point that Broly is stronger than Beerus. Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed save the entire DBS Multiverse from jeopardy. Beerus’ only two feats with the move have been against two characters who are fodder compared to him. Remember, the mods are humans, and we realize you're human, too. Sure hes stronger than HIS GoD but that doesn't mean Belmod is stronger than Beerus. Not to mention the diffrence between ssj and ssb. @sup3rn0va: what makes jiren stronger than beerus? When was it said Beerus is stronger than Toppo? Don't see why Gogeta couldn't/wouldn't learn UI during the fight. UI Beerus + Hakai form is a force to be reckoned with, that I think alot of people on this sub unknowingly downplay. If you're going to repost try to broaden or change the discussion to keep it fresh. May 1, 2020 - Explore Stacey Green's board "ultra instinct vegito & gogeta", followed by 526 people on Pinterest. there is not even one statement where is says jiren> beerus, it was later retconned from the V jump magazine. For more information click here. Posts with a clear political or social agenda. And LB Jiren is almost on par with MUI Goku so again, it's basically 2 MUI level characters against Beerus and Gogeta Blue and none of them has MUI. Beerus' Hakai won't be landing on both Goku and Jiren cause of their massively superior reaction speeds. If you do not properly flair your post, or reply incorrectly to a post because you didn't know the difference between 'Battle' and 'Scan-Battle', you agree to forfeit to us your soul in perpetuity or another soul of equal or greater value. Not an easy match up for Gogeta. Do Goku or Jiren have a counter to Hakai? He was likely at full power when he fought Champa after the baseball game. Since LSSJ Broly is on Beerus' level, then yeah, SSJB Gogeta would have a win here. Characters weaker than Jiren and UI Goku like Golden Frieza and SSJBE Vegeta have resisted Hakai. A full powered MUI Goku might be an annoyance but Beerus just needs to outlast him. We encourage the upvoting of all relevant content and have a wide definition of what's acceptable. Not an easy match up for Gogeta. Posts must be some form of battle, competition, or challenge or they are considered off-topic/META and should go in our weekly off-topic discussion posts. Cept this doesn't happen in the anime, so Goku did not actually know Beerus's full power. Yeah I try and stay away from the managa unless it was specified simply because of the numerous changes from the anime. Not an easy match up for Gogeta. In the anime, the emphasis for Jiren's strength was that he was so powerful that a God of Destruction who was stronger than Beerus could not defeat him. He was even ready to erase Goku at one point, without the need to even power up. Until actual statements corroborate that and have actual confirmation as to where they rank it’s all a bit up in the air which is part of mystery about gods they seemed to be going for imo. and join one of thousands of communities. He can dodge all of Gogeta's attacks, and he can one shot him with Hakai. And Just because SSJ Broly couldn’t touch Whis doesn’t mean that Beerus is unteachable. it was referring mui with the text being " Gokus hair and aura starts to glow SILVER. Use your best judgment. Though Gogeta probably has more raw power. Weaker characters than them have resisted some form of Hakai. Again, please see the suggested template above for more details. Also arguing for Gogeta blue, he clashed with broly broke the boundries of reality and got placed in another dimension until they clashed back in. Ultra Instinct vs Fusion!? [–]SSG_Goten 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). This now includes "You vs" posts as of 29/10/2018; details on why are included in this modpost. @thekappa78: eh, it was not supposed to mean gogeta ssj > Jiren or UI lol. Even if you were to give a little wiggle room, Jiren got a massive power spike, he'd easily be ahead of Beerus by then. There's also Dragon Ball Heroes but that's non-canon. Report rule breaking and leave rule enforcement to the mods. As for Broly, I feel he'd be "At least Low 2-C, possibly 2-C" rather than definitively 2-C, since he was stomped by Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta, who is debatably in the same tier as Ultra Instinct Goku, and is probably stronger than Beerus. and how Beerus was finessing multiple gods of destruction at once in the manga, I would say it’s fairly obvious. Beerus said "now we're getting somewhere" about Gogeta, who Broly couldn't keep up with, showing Gogeta is starting to reach the realms of Beerus' power. Overly broad, vague or opinion-reliant posts. its to big and add ssb to it , it turns to an unholy stomp in favor of gogeta. Beerus also stopped the universe 7 destruction, I'd say that's pretty high showings compared to Jiren at least. UI only lasted for a few minutes and Gogeta already played around with a Jiren level fighter. Is there anything new from DBS after ToP and the Broly/Gogeta movie? we have never seen beerus at full power but according to the manga him and quitela are strongest of the 12, ultra instinct mastered was implied to have surpassed beerus in a shonen jump magazine but that was never fully executed in the actual episode. Vegeta got a new powerful transformation that's about equal to Blue Kaioken x20, and he used his most powerful attack against Toppo to take him out, so I wouldn't say he's far below Beerus at all. and how Goku said full power Broly is “maybe” stronger than Beerus. ryans I don’t remember seeing that in the movie (though it’s been a while). Being able to destroy 2 universes in one shot is literally the requirement of being 2-C. The penalty for breaking the rules of this sub, contributing to spam, trolling, or purposefully making things more difficult for the mods may include being banned. If asked, you must provide evidence for your claims or drop the argument. Zeno is a being who can erase all of existence in the blink of an eye. If you ask us how to do it, we'll know you didn't read this. @takenstew22: Considering Vegeta alone is stronger than Toppo. Ultra Instinct Goku is stronger than SSJB Gogeta Dragon Ball - General ... things even more confusing and complicated by bringing in Merus in a debate that was about the anime version of UI Goku vs Beerus. [–]armchair_science 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). 1 Attack Dialogues 1.1 Super Attacks 1.2 Meteor Attack 2 Match Dialogues 2.1 Sparking 2.2 Team Dialogues 2.3 Match Reset 2.4 Shenron 3 Miscellaneous Dialogues 3.1 Character Selection 3.2 Intro 3.3 Victory 3.4 Defeat 3.5 Results Screen 4 Navigation An asterisk (*) detonates that character has two different lines. 483. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Hakai has shown to be close range, far range and as energy releases. Meta posts, multi-part tournaments, and other non-conventional posts require mod approval. While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. I think team 2 can take it mainly because of Jiren. Beerus is a weak link. And that was before his power boost. Rendered by PID 4451 on r2-app-056d814da82db5a71 at 2020-12-24 01:58:11.803593+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: FR. The only way to prove it is by comparing the power up diffrences. Comments that are a few words and contribute no actual discussion ('lol' or '___ stomps'). This more or less establishes the fact that MUI Goku would be stronger than Beerus. Any posts that do not promote evidence-based debate. MUI Goku and LB Jiren are also individualy stronger than SSB Goku and Vegeta so this doesn't make any sense. There's also those that claim Goku doesn't know Beerus' full power, although from a manga standpoint that's false as Beerus had no reason to hold back in the God of Destruction battle royale, which Goku witnessed. And there you go. Krillin is a human from Earth and one of the characters … Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. [–]Goku4869 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (4 children), Manga Beerus knows Ultra Instinct (Omen), and judging how full powered Broly couldn't even touch a casual Whis. Beerus isn't 2-C because he cannot destroy 2 universes alone. [–]SSG_Goten 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). "Gogeta!" So he does have an actual scale, thinking about it. Jiren in his base form is already GoD tier and his final form well exceeds any GoD. 1 Attack Dialogues 1.1 Super Attacks 2 Match Dialogues 2.1 Sparking 2.2 Team Dialogues 2.3 Match Reset 2.4 Shenron 3 Miscellaneous Dialogues 3.1 Character Selection 3.2 Intro 3.3 Victory 3.4 Results Screen 4 Navigation An asterisk (*) detonates that character has two different lines. Beerus is undoubtedly weaker than Jiren and Goku and Gogeta is hard to gauge where he would place. Three weakest, they had three gods in that one. No, never, not even remotely close. team 1 wins, ultra instinct mastered only lasts for a minute lol, beerus also has ultra instinct but imperfect. I think beerus and gogeta overpower jiren as he tries to tank something and they eventually tag Goku. Even in the Broly Movie, Beerus was on Earth, just chillin'. We were given literal, direct statements to it. Be nice. ... TC always insists SSB Fusions are weaker as a whole in the franchise and REREAD the title. Beerus shouted. Well, Kefla was struggling with regular UI Goku. Not only his he skilled, he has abilities that can destroy both of them with ease. Fusion also allowed Goten and trunks to fight way above their individual level that was a significantly bigger boost than any transformation. He wouldn't even need Blue, he could easily do it with SSJG and maybe even pull it off in a hard fought battle in SSJ3, and that's if you say MUI Goku and Beerus are equals. Can he win against all the Jedi that he lost to? 0. Team 1. Same with Champa. He GODSTOMPED a beerus/mui goku level character while suppressed. B. Whis has a complete mastery over his ultra instinct. [–]Goku4869 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago* (0 children). As for MUI Goku and SSB Gogeta I think MUI Goku can take it because of his speed and reaction time which is pretty much the best we've seen in Dragon Ball yet. and if you add beerus here who has million+ years exp, Hakai and also incomplete ultra instinct than team 1 absolute destroys team 2 with mid to low diff, the only problem team 1 will be facing is mui gokus dodge hacks. Only the Manga. Not to mention, that Beerus would need to go through Whis, Zeno's guards, then the Grand Priest before he'd even have a chance to face off against Zeno. Disruptive gimmick accounts will be first warned then removed. Goku only became on the same level as Beerus once he got UI. I thought there were a couple moments where he was but was stopped. ssj gogeta was already >> ssb goku and vegeta. You're allowed to repost but look to your left first. 0. Assuming unlimited fusion time, I'm going team 1. Threads asking how X character would do with a Y-Colored Lantern Ring are not allowed. More like he is scared to death of them and is incapable of doing anything to them or at least that’s the case as far as Whis and his dad and Zeno are concerned. nonetheless every else is fine. You can't call it headcanon, even if you want to question how strong Whis's conviction was there. I'm not sure what the anime equivalent to that was. Send us a message we'd love to help you with your thread. Jiren sacrificed and sacrificed every year, more and more of himself. And we've seen him do it with extreme ease. Poll Gogeta and Beerus vs MUI Goku and LB Jiren (59 votes) Team 1 68% . (Christmas). Gogeta >>>>> UI Goku > Brolly >=< Jiren >=< Beerus It’s ambiguous between the last 3 however UI is stronger than all 3 but is close. Those aren't even impressive though.. SSJG Goku clashing with Beerus was threatening the Universe in the same way. Then Goku is pretty much dead. And has Beerus never used his full power in the anime? [Star Wars]General Grevious is made out of pure Beskar. 1 Can't Defeat: Krillin. Give ssj gogeta who already is ssb goku and vegeta the boost all the way up to ssb and he stomps. Factually Jiren is stronger than Belmod yes but aside from that everything else is headcanon or theory until proven otherwise. Beerus may be the weakest, but he has the most experience, has partial UI as well, and is arguably the most versatile and has the advantage of destruction energy. Team 2 should take it handily. Apologies go a long way if you mess up. B. Whis has a complete mastery over his ultra instinct. The only thing ultra instinct has over beerus is speed and the auto dodge hax, even then jiren was able to bypass that for a moment due to his strength being absolute and all that shit. [–]Georgepaul4k 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children). @takenstew22: Beerus is stronger than Toppo and it was stated Toppo hasn’t mastered destruction energy yet. [–]TheShrubberyDemander 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (14 children). Or a fusion with Ultra Instinct. Always admit it up front if you're unfamiliar with a character. Goku and Vegeta are also implied to at least know just how much of a gap is between them and Beerus back in Anime RoF since they both cucked down at the mere thought of facing him and have almost faced sleepy Beerus' unrestrained attacks. But the fact is, even taking that into consideration, Jiren was set up as someone even a God of Destruction could not beat, and then got a power up on top of that. Those two are fodder to even Base Gogeta let alone SSB Gogeta. If we go by anime canon, Gogeta is probably far stronger than Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken and Evolved Super Saiyan Blue since Goku and Vegeta resorted to fusion to fight Broly instead of using any of these forms, alongside with those statements. Even with a power boost it wouldn’t automatically make him stronger or on the same level as the other GoDs because the power gaps would vary, e.g Goku getting SSJ1 was impressive because he surpassed Frieza but that same SSJ1 wouldn’t have compared to the androids or Perfect Cell. I’m gonna say Goku and Jiren wins base on feats and power implication and skills, Beerus and Gogeta By Hype. Ohh and Beerus ain’t no weak link here erase that idea especially while bloodlust with no Hakai restriction. Mastered UI Goku overpowered Jiren, it would completely destroy Kefla if they fought again. Present Zamasu ( who was weaker than even SSJ2 Goku.). Whis also says this to Vegeta when he fights Beerus in the manga and loses the fight. No one expects you to be a genius when it comes to every aspect of every character. He can dodge all of Gogeta's attacks, and he can one shot him with Hakai. And even though Gogeta Blue can give Jiren a legit challenge in his base form, he gets completely outclassed against LB. Even Beerus can’t get Ultra Instinct correctly. Well, at least in the anime but if the power of the two people fighting is comparable, it will still work, as shown when Goku used it on Zamasu (Goku's hakai is inferior to Beerus's one too). [–]KingPWNinater 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). Jiren fp >=< goku ultra instinct >= beerus > jiren supressed >> kaioken 20x goku >>> ssb goku The gaps are way bigger + a weaker fusion so i dont think so. Comments that are memes for the sake of memes will be removed as well. Is Gogeta strong enough to take out the GoD? I could see team 1 taking Gogeta against Goku and Jiren agaisnt Beerus. Hakai was never used on frieza or goku it was just a small ammount of GoD energy that was overcome. Jiren before he went Limit Breaker was already stronger than Belmod, who might not be as strong as Beerus, but it still says alot. There’s no actual evidence that Belmod is stronger than Beerus aside from Whis joking to which Beerus replied it was only an arm wrestle, there’s also no timescale for that and could have been when Beerus was a younger GoD and not as strong. Instead of the GoD battle royale, the anime had an exhibition match between the two weakest universes, U7 and U9 (the one with the dog trio). MUI Goku vs Gogeta. SSJB Gogeta is only “possibly stronger than Beerus”Tries citing a movie that doesn't have complete 100% compatibility with neither the Anime nor Manga and doesn't even get the fact right; it was Broly, not Gogeta. C. Ultra instinct doesn’t make you untouchable even the completed version as evidenced by MUI Goku vs LB Jiren. A.Whis is way more powerful than Beerus is. See this post for details. Brolly who is stated to be stronger or close to Beerus in power, got treated like a child having a tantrum by Gogeta. Can a guy with a gun kill a bender from avatar? 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